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Visit to the Middle East

Press conference given by M. Bernard Kouchner, Minister of Foreign and European Affairs, to French press correspondants,(excerpts)

Ramallah, September 10, 2007

Q. – [You're known as a] militant utopian and realist, what does that mean here in the Palestinian Territories and Ramallah when coming to meet the President of the Palestinian Authority?

THE MINISTER – It means, today in particular, that it was a good day, not because I came, but because the discussions between Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Olmert apparently went well. (…) What's more, there are also prospects as regards removing some of the roadblocks in the West Bank and also releasing a number of Palestinians.

HAMAS/GAZA

Q. – During an interview given to "Yediot Aharonot”, you said that Hezbollah represented a large section of the Lebanese population and that it was important to talk to it. Don't you think an analogy can be made with Hamas and that France's position vis-à-vis Hamas could be the same as her position vis-à-vis Hezbollah?

THE MINISTER – Yes, you can make that analogy, but it wouldn't be correct. I think what happened with Hamas, particularly against Fatah and the PLO, does warrant us holding off a bit more and certainly not taking part – I might add, no one wants to – in political talks with Hamas. But, on the other hand, as I stressed earlier, the Palestinian people of Gaza must know they aren't forgotten and that we'll continue helping them. From the information I have on the living conditions of the people in Gaza, they are, in fact, on the whole not that bad, which doesn't mean they've got everything they need, but that we must go on helping them. And, moreover, salaries are also being paid in Gaza, as you know.

Q. – But Gaza's economic situation is absolutely terrible!

THE MINISTER – Yes, but you're not going to ask me to repair the economic fabric straightaway: first there have to be talks, actual policies, peace and finally calm in the region. (…) I believe everyone has acknowledged that, for the moment, what's important, alongside the humanitarian aid provided for the people, is the development of a policy which was inconceivable even four months ago. So I think it's good for things to be happening like this, and that there's a glimmer of hope and that Mr Abu Mazen is in a better situation than a while ago. I don't doubt that, on the other side, we'll see in Israel the same, slightly more cheerful smile than usual.

Q. – Not talking to Hamas, does that also mean a de facto partitioning of the Territories? Can this risk France seems to be taking be avoided?

THE MINISTER – There isn't any de facto partitioning. What is there? Perhaps in a cynical – but, for the future and for peace, I believe effective – way, we have to "take advantage” – if I may put it like that – of this situation which neither we nor Fatah wanted, so that things move forward and that at last we find a more long-term solution. This is what must be done. It doesn't mean we'll never talk to Hamas, but that it isn't, at any rate, the moment to do so. (…)./.

Embassy of France in the United States - September 17, 2007