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RECONSTRUCTION OF IRAQ/AFGHANISTAN
Interview given by M. Dominique de Villepin, Minister of
Foreign Affairs, to "France Inter" (excerpts)
Paris, May 22, 2003
IRAQ/UN/DISARMAMENT/UNMOVIC/IAEA
(...)
Q. - Will the UN have a role?
THE MINISTER - We can say that the UN is back and, basically, the real challenge
is to ensure that the UN can regain its role since we firmly believe that it
alone is capable of lending its legitimacy, experience and effectiveness to
the action on the ground.
Obviously, we had to find the way to do this and so there was a very technical
discussion on each of the points: the legal situation, which you mentioned,
the sanctions, disarmament, and we wanted, in order to be consistent, the disarmament
process to be certified by the United Nations.
Q. - But controlled by the inspectors, and will they return?
THE MINISTER - The inspectors must return, what we've done is initiate the process,
UNMOVIC and the IAEA will have to certify the disarmament, even if they do so
with the American and British inspectors already over there, there are nearly
2,000 inspectors today.
We want this disarmament process to be totally completed.
TRANSITION PERIOD
Q. - And do you know how long the transition period will
be? Have the Americans agreed to say this?
THE MINISTER - That's an important point on which we have also worked. At the
beginning, the draft had no deadline and so we have provided for a rendezvous
clause, at the end of twelve months. We have provided for - and this was very
important for France - regular monitoring, we want transparency and at regular
intervals, every three months or so, to know exactly what is happening on the
ground. So reports will be made to the Security Council, information will be
provided. And, above all, and this is a key factor, there will be a United Nations
special representative. To begin with, there was talk only of a coordinator,
someone whose job it was, on the side, to watch things being done; now he has
an effective independent political role and so will be able to play a full part
in this political process which is undoubtedly one of the keys to the reconstruction.
There must very quickly be a legitimate authority and, as we said yesterday
with our Russian and German friends, we want, very swiftly to see full sovereignty
restored to the Iraqis.
Initially, we are in the phase of making the country safe, so those committed
on the ground have a special responsibility. They are creating a stabilization
force but this is, at the end of the day, only a sort of broader coalition.
So, at the appropriate moment, it's essential for a legitimate sovereign authority
to be established in Iraq and to govern the country.
US/IRAQ/TERRORISM/PROLIFERATION/MIDDLE EAST
Q. - What do you think about the many headlines in today's
American press to the effect that Mr Bush's policy in Iraq isn't fulfilling
its commitments.
THE MINISTER - It's an appallingly difficult task. Remember France's argument
throughout these long months: a country can wage war on its own, but a country
can't build peace on its own. The war clearly risked leading to the emergence
of this period of uncertainty, frustration, resentment, tension, and today we
are seeing the return of large-scale violence on the international stage and
in this region. We are seeing this with the constant growth of the terrorist
risk and this is precisely why we thought it necessary to take the process of
peaceful disarmament as far as it could go.
The war took place, we now have to restore the unity of the [international]
community since without it how can we hope to reduce terrorism, reduce the risk
of proliferation and resolve the regional crises? I repeat this since it is
today at the heart of France's concerns.
We have to find a solution to the Middle East conflict and if the feeling of
injustice doesn't diminish, if solutions aren't found for the painful insecurity
today felt, on their side, by the Israelis, the spiral of violence will continue.
(...)
AFGHANISTAN/INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM/HEROIN/CULTURAL
DIALOGUE/ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
Q. - And isn't there a paradox in the Afghanistan situation?
After 11 September, Afghanistan, the first battleground on which the Americans
fought international terrorism, is today the leading producer of heroin, which
is fuelling the international terrorist networks.
THE MINISTER - You're absolutely right and this shows once again that war alone
isn't the solution. There has to be an underlying political strategy and a cultural
dialogue so that we can talk to these countries, and we need a vision of economic
development. (...)./.
Embassy of France in the United States - May 22 2003
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